Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer

you think that with the beautiful
photographs that we have of our round blue planet it would convince any
doubters but there are still some who insist that the world is flat
correspondent Mariana van Zeller discovers more about this fast growing
movement in California I’m Mariana van Zeller and I’m in Southern California to
look into a growing movement in America people who claim the earth is flat they
call themselves the flat earthers and we’re here to try to understand what’s
behind this unconventional view and how it can affect the rest of us so what’s happening here today why are
you here this matters to me flattered that shows you that you are
not a mistake and you were created and so you have meaning in matter – we’re
not monkeys floating through space on the false maxim that testable it’s not
measurable it’s not provable it’s not real how old are you guys just out of
curiosity do you think it’s a growing movement yes and we’re networking and
getting stronger people are realizing it it’s coming out in the media you’re
hearing the term flatter this is becoming more normal people are more
open-minded to it he’s not wrong a recent survey of Americans found that
two percent believe the earth is flat for the US population as a whole
that works out to be over 6.5 million people
even high profile artists and athletes are getting on board I want to try to find Mart sergeant
who’s one of the leaders of the Flat Earth community
nice to see you man mark used to design video games and run software trainings
now he devotes himself full-time to promoting the Flat Earth with all the
attention that you must be Mark Sargent I am Mark Sargent
thanks for meeting us here it’s a pleasure to be here so tell me what is
this movement all about this movement is about changing the world literally you
think for the longest time that you live here but what if it wasn’t this what if
this was just the illusion yeah we’re gonna open this thing up and the reality
look something like this in a nutshell you have North Pole at the centre the
continents splayed out organically on the sides
Antarctica is stretched around the entire outer edge like an ice ball the
Sun in the morning are very very small and the stars are just lights in the sky
a giant planet area which means is built by somebody someone bigger than us
someone better than us do you think it was a god not my place to say your
belief in the earth being flat flies in the face hundreds of the world not only
that we have satellite imagery we have photos from space and nobody here
believes any of that anymore so you don’t believe that people travel in
space no oh it’s much worse than you know meaning the only reason NASA was
founded in 1958 was to keep this thing under wraps as best they could be big
think of the shockwaves if all of a sudden you’re telling a civilization
that this model this is an it anymore flatters is the last conspiracy anyone
ever looks at mark and his fellow flat earther seem to be pretty convinced that
the earth is flat and that we’ve all been lied to for all these years but I’m
interested in knowing what impact this might have not only for science but for
society at large so we’re heading to meet with an astrophysicist that we hope
can answer some of these questions the universe began about fourteen billion
years ago an event that we call the Big Bang james bullock is a professor of
physics and astronomy at the University of California Irvine he specializes in
how galaxies formed did you ever think a few years ago that you’d be having this
discussion for National Geographic it’s frankly shocking we’ve known for 2,000
years based on observations you can make with your own eyes that the world is
round they have all the evidence right in
front of them and they still choose not to believe in it you know who knows what
motivates people from the inside to believe these things but science is
important science is valuable science saves lives it makes our lives better
and more comfortable and it enriches us intellectually and to question what
scientists are saying and suggested they’re part of some massive
international global conspiracy it’s really scary are they a threat to the
work that you do as a scientist if say government stop funding science the
cause of some kind of anti science anti intellectual feedback they’re getting
from the populace that’s when it really starts getting dangerous for our
civilization and as the war on science heats up some Americans are fighting
back we’re heading to the largest lake in California to meet the independent
investigations group which is a group that essentially debunks paranormal
claims and they want to do a round earth task may that be a test that will prove
that the earth is not flat but that it is round let’s go we’re ready to launch
you ready Craig ok so what’s happening here right now okay this is the boat
base target it’s horizontal stripes we’re gonna launch a small boat out into
the water here with a striped target and as it gets farther and farther out
you’ll start to lose the stripes one way that Aristotle proved 2,000 years ago
that the earth is a sphere was with a boat’s test very similar to this one as
a boat approaches the horizon it appears to slowly dip down into the water before
disappearing completely that’s got everything to do with the curvature of
the earth if the planet was flat the entire boat would remain visible so
it’ll be a very visual depiction of the curvature of the earth and what’s really
interesting is that some of the flat earthers including mark sergeant’s are
actually going to be here for this test they want to see it for themselves what
do you think is gonna happen here today I appreciate the scientific group coming
out and trying to do this test great appreciate the enthusiasm but cannot
work can’t work yeah okay so the test is starting the test it’s starting right
now at first all the stripes are clearly visible but sure enough as the boat
reaches the horizon the stripes begin to disappear one by one it’s pretty amazing
you can actually see it really clearly with this camera here and you see that
the red stripe cuz that was at the bottom has completely disappeared and
it’s now getting closer to sort of the middle
Green we’ve lost about one and a half stripes so this can only happen white
because of the curvature of the earth but mark Sargent and the other
flat-earthers have a very different interpretation of
the results so you don’t think that what we’re seeing is actually real you think
it’s because oh yeah here in flat earth believe it’s a globe mister
demonstration that doesn’t change anyone Korea Lord no mark do you really believe
this stuff tell me the truth I’m serious right absolutely 100%
believe we are not on a globe we are part of a giant studio set all the
world’s a stage and you’re on it I still don’t understand that like who’s gaining
from all this from this larger exclusive the highest authority higher than
presidents this super-rich people that are behind the scenes remember the first
rule of powers stay hidden so this is for me where I think it gets really
dangerous because we’re going back into the dark ages all right you’re
essentially perpetuating ignorance by denying science you know there’s a
real-life implication in all of this science has had its chance and they
aren’t putting up a defense I think that the flat earth could potentially uh sure
in a new golden age or it could assure in an age of chaos it’s easy to dismiss this as just a
silly theory and unimportant but the problem is that is a growing movement in
America more and more young people seem to believe that the world is flat and
you know it’s more than just distrust and government it’s this notion that
thousands of years of empirical scientific evidence is now being
dismissed as a mere conspiracy and that’s where I think it really starts
getting dangerous for all of us

100 Replies to “Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer”

  1. For many years, people have clashed on whether the Earth is flat or round. What are your thoughts on this heated debate?

  2. I wouldn't call them idiots, they only believe what was considered facts up until the past millennium or two. The worlds greatest builders of civilization were flat earthers, oh wait you guys think aliens did that, my bad?

  3. I've just watched another vid about flat earth, for which the comments are disabled ?
    No surprise there then, flat earthers are one of 2 types of people, 1- just want to be a part of something/a part of a movement
    2- are completely thick as [email protected]$k
    Listen to professor Brian Cox, he actually knows his stuff!

  4. so the interview at 9:00 sheds some light on the psychology behind the 'flat earthers' ….'the world is just a stage', has roots in being feeling very self important. Can you imagine thinking you are important enough that the whole world and universe is just a construct so something can watch you? Oh wait! You know who has that same world view? Religious nuts. See how the 2 co-relate? Religion has you thinking you are so important to existence that life is just some sort of 'test' before you get to the next stage of what's beyond life. Of course that test takes place in some sort of theatre. This flat earth model give people their imagined ant farm they feel they are running in

  5. There are many evidence that the earth is round
    This guy was a videogames programer, how he pretend know more of the earth that the scientists?

  6. To my opinion this movement is dumb and a waste of time also if earth is flat what about the other planets not everything is FLAT

  7. 6.5 million people out of over 300, 000, 000 people. A drop in the bucket. Not even the population of Delaware. And we are calling it a movement? When they get to 100,000,000, then we can talk.

  8. I think earth is flat and there are many reasons

    Earth shadow on moon shows that's its not globes, this shape ? of Shadow can not prove earth is globe,because shadow should be in curve shape not straight,
    Earth is moving ryt,completing its round in 24 hours,if moving by aeroplane in same direction of earth movement we will took so long to reach the destination and meed more speed then earth.
    There are many questions i cant write.

  9. They should have brought up that every mile the boat goes farther it should drop 8 feet every mile. Does the first red stripe from bottom has 8 feet? Did the boat got 1 mile away. Hey mark sargeant why did you not ask these questions. If Nathan was there he would have won these debates.

  10. I believe the Earth is a sphere.

    Now that being said, the test they did is the worst test they could have possible done. Im sitting here facepalming.
    Look at 7:44 the guys could have easily dipped the bottom stripe below the water level and said, hey look it disappeared beyond the horizon. The plaque is as big as the boat so the boat nicely hides behind it so as to not show that it is not below the horizon.
    Come on there are so many better ways to prove the Earth is round. If you want to prove something, make it irrefutable.
    If I was a flat earther I wouldn't have believed this test either.

  11. Is stunning what people is capable to believe.. no wonder there are mormons out there despite the evidence it is a froud.

  12. The earth and heavens are at the same time round, flat, and static according to the Holly Quran. This depends on which aspects we are talking about. The shape of the earth is round while the space and time around the earth are flat while the space and time coordinates of the earth around the sun are static. 1) The shape of the earth is round as the moon looks like from the earth. Thus, a round earth as mentioned in the Holly Quran means a round shaped earth. 2) The space and time around the earth are flat since the orbital velocity of a body moving around the earth such as the moon is v = (G × M × r^-1)^1/2 or v = r × H with H = (G × M × r^-3)^1/2 or H = 1/t where H is the so-called Hubble parameter in cosmology and which follows immediately from the Newtonian velocity using a simplest algebra (see Kacem Rochd in Google). Thus, the orbital velocity of a body moving around the earth is independent on the angular velocity that is v = r × w with w = 1/t rather than w = 2 × pi / T providing an evidence that the space and time around the earth are flat rather than curved. Thus, a flat earth as mentioned in the Holly Quran means a flat space and time around the earth rather than a curved space and time around the earth as believed by Einstein. Notice that the pilotes of planes serve with a flat and isotropic space-time for navigation while cosmologists serve with flat and isotropic space-time fir studying the universe (standard cosmological model). 3) The space and time coordinates of the earth around the sun are equivalent to each other in a natural (9 + 4)-dimentional flat and isotropic space-time as required by observation and theory of the solar system dynamics (Kacem Rochd in preparation for scientific journal). Thus, a static earth as mentioned in the Holly Quran means a static space and time coordinates of the earth around the sun in a natural (9 + 4)-dimentional flat and isotropic space-time centered on the sun. For this reason the space and time around the earth are isotropic at all directions and hence the invented (3 + 1)-dimentional flat and isotropic space-time works well in our daily life as for exemple the navigation around the earth by pilotes of planes using the so-called a flat earth. But, Allah knows best.

  13. 8:08
    He gets asked one single question as undeniable proof is right there in his face so he turns to his "followers" for moral support…
    "Does anyone here believe…. bla bla bla
    And as he asks the minions look up like "oh yea it's that thing I have to do in order to be a part of something" as they unenthusiastically shake their heads "NO" before getting back to their Facebook and Candy Crush.

  14. Why hasn’t the flat earth community just sailed to see the ice wall and if it’s not there then boom problem solved? Why are we still having this debate?

  15. Unfortunately, researches are only peripherally interested in the
    thousands of species discovered so far and given unpronounceable Latin names.
    Countless more species, such as Flat Earthers, are waiting in vain to be discovered. (Loosely based on P. Wohlleben)

  16. If the cone resepter in your eyes bind light and rain to make a rainbow.
    Mined you the rainbow is not real. But the resepter adds curve to all we see leaving no discrepancy with in the deception. I say flat and round…

  17. No theory believing theoretical physicist who thinks computer generated images are real evidence can admit that they have no proof for their claims other than mathematics and camera trickery, like this hit piece and therefore there's no reason they should receive a paycheck. And yes, atmospheric lensing and perspective are real optical illusions that change what you see over water depending on the time of day and time of year.

  18. Do these guys know how ridiculous they sound . Go to the North Pole . Travel to the South Pole measure the distance you travel . Then travel around Antarctica take that distance and you should have 22 over 7 . News flash guys you won't

  19. At 7:54 they do a test to show the curvature of the earth… Why is the horizon of the water line behind the boat higher than what is lost on the striped flag? Does this really show curvature or does it show convergence? Where the object meets the earth wouldn't it have to converge on each other to show the effect of distance?
    "This can only happen why?" "Because the curvature of the earth…"

  20. Do you know whats worst than ignorant, its arrogant. If you are ignorant you can cure that with education but there is no cure for arrogant because no amount of proof can change them.

  21. There was actually an expedition THROUGH Antarctica. If literally jumping and seeing the curvature of the Earth isn’t enough, this should be.

  22. Everything stupid happens in California and Florida. It's sad especially the first lady that got interviewed said it made her feel like she's worth something

  23. Wow you people are so lost and non believers of a devine creator its clearly in the Bible the firmament proves waters above and waters below science isn't truth its making up ridiculous hypothesis to realistic topics. Don't be blind

  24. Former CIA Director William Casey: "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false"

  25. Dangerous to have an opposite opinion? Really? Who are you? A dictator? And as u said, the proof is in our eyes…did u EVER think that the water levels itself ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE? Do some research, get some knowledge and stop being a parrot. But ofcourse, u getting paid! Wake up and smell the coffee!

  26. The real question is if the American educational system failed, or if the US government made its citizens distrust them so much that they, by default, dont belive anything any government institution (in this case NASA) says.
    Both are cause for concern.

  27. I'm not saying it's flat but… or eyes and the lenses are rounded… send so are the lenses on every camera on earth… if our eyes were flat would that help some this? If our eyes were concave would the earth be a bowl or a doughnut? What do you think? I'm open… thank you for your time and consideration in this matter… respectfully. Michael Conner

  28. You notice the globalist think it's dangerous to have a different opinion on the shape of the earth, That's because of a AGENDA. Flat earthers simply go by physical evaluation, Not theory. This example was so stupid, If a more powerful telescope was used you would have seen the horizontal flag perfectly. AGENDA! Why do we have the Artic no fly zone with every country of power signed to it's agreement.? By the way the ONLY agreement ever kept by different countries. This argument could be COMPLETELY resolved (Because of the danger of it's nature) by simply allowing people to explore the Artic by flight, In no time the absolute proof would be acknowledged, With no tricks, Theories, or opinions. The only downfall to NASA would be the recognition of earth and it's people the center of the universe, There for GOD exist. This is the DANGER their talking about.

  29. California IQ has fallen to below 95. Lower that 47 other states. They are pooping in the sidewalk in San Francisco. They don't have the intellectual capacity to evaluate evidence so they swallow the BS.

  30. There is no way people actually believe the earth is flat, I can't believe, or wrap my head around this, but it does explain why alien UFOs are flat

  31. We live on a small plane; hence the term planet
    (Small to whom?)
    Which is why there is an up and there is a down
    We are not "matter," WE MATTER
    Science is real; however,
    Scientism is a hoax for control used to strip morals and mentally enslave
    Study history told from the perspectives of all cultures non racists
    Do not blindly trust without your own personal experience and scientific measurement
    Do not criticize others for not seeing what you see

  32. 2000 years ago? But only less than 500 years ago civilization have drawings of dome shaped earth's that test they did was weak lol doesnt really prove the curvature of the earth supposeply the earth curves 6in per mile an a half

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