Meet The Woman Who Learned That Her Mother Passed As White | Megyn Kelly TODAY


>>>A SECRETIVE MOTHER, A GRANDFATHER SHE HAD NEVER MET AND A FAMILY HISTORY SHE NEVER EXPECTED. GAIL COULD NOT HAVE PREDICTED WHAT SHE WOULD DISCOVER WHEN SHE DECIDED TO DIG INTO HER MOTHER’S MYSTERIOUS PAST. WATCH.>>THIS IS MY MOM AND DAD. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, MY FATHER WENT TO HIS GRAVE NEVER KNOWING MY MOM’S SECRET. MY PARENTS MET DURING WORLD WAR II. MY MOM WAS AN ABSOLUTELY STUNNING LLY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. MY DAD, HE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. HE SERVED IN THE PACIFIC. HE WAS VERY PROUD OF THAT.>>Reporter: IN 1944, AFTER THE WAR, HAROLD MARRIED OLIVEIRA FREDERICK. THEY SETTLED IN PALMA, OHIO. THROUGHOUT HER CHILDHOOD, GAIL SAID HER MOTHER MYSTIFIED HER IN SOME WAYS.>>SHE WAS METICULOUS ABOUT HER MAKEUP. SHE WOULD WEAR A LIGHT FOUNDATION MAKEUP TO BED AT NIGHT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE. SHE WOULD NEVER GO OUT IN THE SUN, UNLESS SHE HAD A WIDE-BRIM HAT. SHE WOULD COVER HER HANDS WITH GLOVES. DIDN’T LIKE TO BE IN THE SON.>>Reporter: BUT GAIL SAID THE BIGGEST MYSTERY WAS HER MOTHER’S SELECTIVE MEMORY WHEN TALKING ABOUT HER OWN FATHER.>>I SAID, MOM, WHEN HE WAS BORN? WHEN DID HE DIE? I DON’T KNOW. I CAN’T REMEMBER.>>Reporter: GROWING UP, GAIL NEVER SAW ONE PHOTO OF HER GRANDFATHER. FINALLY, IN 1995, WHEN SHE WAS 48, SHE DECIDED TO SEARCH FOR HIS IDENTITY, COMBING THROUGH MICROFILM.>>AT FIRST, I COULDN’T FIND HIM. THEN, I PUT IN THE 1900 LOUISIANA CENSUS RECORDS AND I SEE THE NAME. THERE ARE ALL THESE FREDERICKS IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. I NOTICED SOMETHING CURIOUS, NEXT TO ALL THEIR NAMES IS THE LETTER “B.” I GO TO THE HEAD OF THAT COLUMN TO SEE WHAT IT STANDS FOR. AND IT SAYS RACE. I THOUGHT, “B”? DOES THAT MEAN BLACK?>>Reporter: GAIL WANTED TO CONFRONT HER MOTHER. BUT FIRST, SHE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, REQUESTING HER MOTHER’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I PRETENDED I WAS MY MOTHER AND I LOST MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I OPENED THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IN THE PARENTHESES, THERE WAS COL. AND I SAID, MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAID COL, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT MEANS? THEY SENT ME A VERY OFFICIAL LETTER BACK AND SAID, COL IS FOR COLORED. I WAS SPEECHLESS. I DIDN’T KNOW IF MY MOTHER KNEW. I AM THINKING, HOW COULD SHE NOT KNOW THIS? AND WHY HAS SHE NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO ME?>>WE’RE JOINED BY GAIL WHO HAS WRITTEN ABOUT HER MOTHER’S SECRET PAST IN A NEW BOOK “WHITE LIKE HER.” THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>YOU DID WORK UP THE NERVE TO ASK YOUR MOTHER ABOUT THIS CERTIFICATE. YOU SAT DOWN WITH HER. YOU KNEW IT HAD TO BE FACE-TO-FACE.>>THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION YOU HAVE ON THE TELEPHONE.>>AND YOU ASKED HER WHY SHE’S LISTED AS, QUOTE, COLORED ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.>>I DID. I TOLD HER, I FOUND A BERTH CERTIFICATE. IT SAID COLORED. SHE BECAME VERY INDIGNANT WITH ME. SHE SAID, I DON’T KNOW WHAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE YOU HAVE, BUT MINE SAYS I’M WHITE. I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE. I HAVE OTHER KUDOCUMENTS I CAN SHOW YOU. THE CENSUS RECORDS, YOUR FATHER IS LISTED AS BLACK. AND I HAVE A LETTER FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA SAYING THAT COL MEANS COLORED. SHE GOT VERY QUIET. VERY QUIET. AND SHE IS SITTING IN THIS LARGE CHAIR. IT SEEMED LIKE THE CHAIR WAS SWALLOWING HER. SHE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, YOU HAVE TO PROMISE ME YOU WILL NEVER TELL ANYONE UNTIL AFTER I DIE. AND THEN, SHE SAID, HOW WILL I HOLD MY HEAD UP WITH MY FRIENDS IF THEY KNOW?>>WOW. WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?>>THAT WAS 1997, WHEN I CONFRONTED HER.>>SO, SHE HAD SPENT HER ADULT LIFE PASSING, A TERM YOU USE IN THE BOOK.>>YES.>>CAN YOU TELL THE AUDIENCE WHAT THAT IS?>>SHE WAS PASSING FOR WHITE. MY MOTHER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HER, SHE VISUALLY LOOKS WHITE. ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IN THE CENSUS RECORD, SHE IS LISTED AS COLORED OR BLACK. WHEN SHE DECIDED TO MARRY MY FATHER, WHO BY THE WAY, IS WHITE, SHE MOVED NORTH TO OHIO AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON, SHE TOOK ON THE WHITE RACE THAT SHE PASSED. SHE WENT FROM BEING DESIGNATED BLACK TO BEING DESIGNATED WHITE.>>YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK ABOUT THAT MOMENT THAT YOU SAW COL AND KNEW IT TO BE COLORED. AND WRITE ABOUT THE DAY I FOUND OUT I WASN’T WHO I THOUGHT I WAS. WHAT DID YOU GO THROUGH UPON THIS REALIZATION?>>THE INITIAL DISCOVERY WAS 1995 WHEN I WAS AT THE FAMILY HISTORY CENTER. I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THIS. I WALKED INTO THAT FAMILY HISTORY CENTER A WHITE WOMAN. TOTALLY CONVINCED I WAS A WHITE WOMAN. AND I WALKED OUT OF THERE AND I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT I WAS. I DIDN’T KNOW IF I WAS MIXED RACE, IF I WAS BLACK, IF I WAS STILL WHITE. I HAD NO IDEA. IT WAS SHOCKING TO ME. YOU KNOW, LIKE FINDING OUT YOU’RE ANOTHER PERSON THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW.>>RIGHT. AND YOUR MOM IS ANOTHER PERSON. I KNOW YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL NOW IN RETROSPECT. SHE LEFT CLUES FOR YOU. LIKE LITTLE BREAD CRUMBS THROUGH THE FOREST. WE’RE GOING THE TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE WERE ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT GAIL SAYS HER OWN

100 Replies to “Meet The Woman Who Learned That Her Mother Passed As White | Megyn Kelly TODAY”

  1. There is really nothing wrong to have black blood in your veins, no need to get upset by it. You have been put onto this earth by love, you seem to have a pretty good life, it's a gif, so enjoy it, by the way every blood is red in appearance.

  2. Is this really important?? Who cares !! What I've learnt in life is that any race can be fun a good laugh and decent and any race can be an absolute arsehole. It's all about the person. Not all whites are Nazi's and not all blacks are rapists it's just the media like to keep everyone permanently nervous

  3. This woman to actaully come out with her family history… to claim her ancestry that IT IS indeed Black? Wow big up to you!! So many whites hate blacks because of their own ancestry and would never share the TRUTH! and then her father who was bigoted and married a black girl… I am not surprised though… how many of them have colored kids and don't claim them be ause they don't want to be know to have been with a black girl… the very light skinned black girls… Life is a show!

  4. I don't want to ever hear that white lady say anything bad about black people cause her momma is black!!

  5. There’s a book by Nella Larsen “Passing” and it’s the same concept. It’s so sad that this even exists… sigh. This is 😞 sad

  6. People just don't know how common this really is in this country. If your family has roots in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina – best believe you have mixed ancestry in your family roots

  7. We can pretty much infer that this woman’s mother was predominantly of European admixture, with her second largest component most likely compromised of African admixture.
    She wasn’t passing for “white”, she was “white.”

    This segment title, and this woman’s book perpetuates exclusion through laws of hypo-descent, which is nonsensical, and purely based in racist ideology. Are we really still ignorant to not recognize that black and white do not exist in human skin tone.

  8. Mixed people are still called coloured in south Africa. It's not derogatory it's actually a separate race of it's own.

  9. Kinda weird though, because nowadays you use terms like “African American” and “Caucasian” instead of black and white, especially in birth certificates.

  10. She did it for survival so her daughter wont suffer facing discrimination and racism. Illegal immigrants do it saying they are natural citizens in order not to be discriminated or deported becaus ewe kive in a world of propaganda in which education system tells them how great their country is a the rest of the countries are shitholes even though if its the other way around.

  11. when her mother met her father her father said hey i got a little black in me do you ? she said well no i don't he said well do you want some … along comes the daughter ..

  12. Why does everyone keep saying she "passed" as white? She is white. It's ridiculous to say a woman like that is black.

  13. People not admitting to black heritage is MORE DAMNING FOR THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN !!! WE ALL COME FROM BLACK AFRICANS.

  14. notice Katherine Hepburn in pink, sitting behind the interviewee, displaying early onset palsy as evidenced by her fevered head shaking

  15. Interesting story – sad really. I wish they'd change the camera angle, that animated woman in the background nodding and shaking her head is irritating.

  16. The bobblehead behind her makes me sea sick. She seems like those who believe anything the gentle left has to feed her.

  17. pretending to be someone you are not just so people will like you is no way to live, if people cant like you regardless of how and who you are then they are not worth your time. nobody like everybody.

  18. What an outrage it must be to be black. White people are only light skinned anyways. A hueman…a hue of what?

  19. Back in the 80s I was in the army meet James bond he told the guys he was black . When things were slow one on one I put my arm inside part next to his arm. I asked with is lighter. He said his arm was lighter. Yours evans w Robinson

  20. This story really isn't a novelty. The tragedy is that we're talking about it at all. I understand that during the times these things happened, there was a sense of shame attached to it, but eventually there will be a single race, and all humans will look alike. With the ease of travel, and interracial marriages being more and more acceptable, there will be a time when humans can look back and realize how foolish racism was.

  21. In her younger days, her mother had a lot of mixed features. She looks quite racially ambiguous. The daughter has some black features too, I think it’s her eyes.

  22. I'd swear having Black in you is a like having a Malignant Cancer in Amerkkka LOL We all originated from Africa….lol The irony. Shhhhh I have a secret my kids are half Nigerian. Shhhhh don't tell anyone they pass as Hispanic LMAO

  23. Technically She would be probably be aboutt 75% White and 25% Black in a perfect Percentage world and I know a girl who is like that and She looks whiter than a 100% White female Like Her Hair is naturally Platinum blonde and She has icy Light Blue eyes But I don't like her anyway because she is Ironically RACIST

  24. Why hide that? I have never had a problem with black people ive dated 2 and got black friends we are all the same we all bleed red!! Cant stand racist people

  25. If her mother was half black, doesn’t it make the woman sitting on stage, a quarter black. I don’t think her mother was half black, maybe a quarter.

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  27. She from New Orleans ⚜️ ahhh this is so common there! I’m from New Orleans. Black ppl in New Orleans have like several blood lines, plenty are mixed with lots of races. I had uncles who passed as white back in the day.

  28. It’s sad she should empathize with her mom. Her mom lived in a era where the white population didn’t like black or Mexican or anyone that wasn’t white it was dangerous if I was her mom i would of done the same thing. Its our sad society sadly we still have some of the same problems that we did years ago. I don’t think she was ashamed of who she was I think she was just trying to survive

  29. 60 minutes COMMENT!!!! OMEROSSA WE DONT WANT TO SEE YOU OR HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY YOUR FIRED OUT OUT NO MORE YOUR HIDEOUS GOOD 👋
    MOOCH MOOCH MOOCH ON ON 👋
    WE ALL HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD

  30. My husband's grandfather did the same thing. It wasn't until my Father-in-law was 59 & he went to go get his birth certificate that he found out that his dad had changed his race & last name evine in the military. His aunt that was still alive explained the reasoning. He changed it to something more " Anglo" because the whites were treated better in the service& they had clean, nice barracks while the blacks were given filthy huts to live in

  31. I'm sorry but this woman want black, at least not 100% black or even close to it. I understand the fear of being black back then but this story is a little misleading. Don't mean any disrespect.

  32. sad that this matters…. geez! and not to mention… this lady nor pictures of her in the 90s look anything like a black person , black and white photos are pointless lol… i just wonder what this lady thinks, that her life would be diffrent if she was known as a black lady ? come on .. noone cares

  33. Was this based on the book “the human stain” Anthony Hopkins played the part of a man who passed as a white man his whole life and turned his back on his black family and never told his wife..great movie

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