Should You Clean Antique and Milsurp Firearms?


I’m Jeremy with PoindexterG, and today we’re going to talk about cleaning antique and old military surplus rifles so there’s a lot of information out there about cleaning old firearms you get a wide varied amount of opinions out there all I can really do is just give you my opinion on the matter, and it’s just that my opinion but you’re here for it, so let me go ahead and give it to you now, you’ll hear arguments out there that you don’t want to ever clean these at all because you’ll take the patina off of them you don’t want to try to ever clean up the stocks, you don’t need to ever ever ever take them apart you just need to leave it alone and people say that there’s value in keeping them completely like that in that state that that’s actually preferable to trying to clean them up a little bit well I don’t really agree with that, and I’m gonna go off to an exaggerated example here to show you why okay so we got us a real nice example of late seventies early eighties truck here you can look at it here and see that the finish is original on it look at all this beautiful patina that’s
on this and everything in there, I mean all of the hoses, the plugs, everything,
that’s all original none of that’s been changed, those seats are original nothing’s been changed down on them and the tires, yeah, I mean the tires are
pretty rough I mean, but you know, we could put new tires on it, but they would just completely stand out if we put new tires on it and yeah we could try to you know get rid of this rust that’s on here but, you know you’re, gonna damage that original finish if you try to take this rust off this one is so good compared to the ones where they’ve gone and they’ve redone
all of the paint on it and completly stripped off what’s originally there and put new on it I just can’t believe that there’s people that’ll take these old beautiful cars like this and just completely destroy them, destroy them, by redoing everything on them. It’s just a shame now I understand that firearms
aren’t cars but when you look at this mentality that we have a lot of times with antique rifles and try to apply that to other machines, you start to realize how absurd it is nobody has any interest in a car that is not kept up at all the older cars that have a lot of value are the ones that have been taken care of and have the bits that need to be replaced replaced, and the parts that need to be cleaned cleaned when the paint job on it gets so bad that it’s just completely unappealing and it’s basically just destroying itself with rust then that needs to be stripped off and something new put on there and I’m not saying just go take these rifles and strip everything off of
them refinish the metal all the time and just strip off the stocks and completely redo them but there’s times that that has to happen and you have all of the time that you need to take basic care of them so I’m going to go ahead and use my trapdoor here as an example so I bought this from a reputable dealer online, and had it shipped to me and you can do that since it’s an antique, you can have it shipped to you because it’s legally not a firearm when I got it it was basically in the type of condition that you see a lot of these in the stock had not been cleaned at all on it, in like forever the metal on it was pretty rough there
was still just lead down in the bore and there were actually a few places on the
rifle where there were rust so I went ahead took it apart the day that I got it, and cleaned everything up now, I’m not here with, like, fine sandpaper or a brillo pad or even like scotch brite and just going to town on all the metal but I’m cleaning off everything on there, especially the internals I went ahead and went over the stock and just got it cleaned up I’m not talking about stripping off the stock, but just cleaning the stock and I definitely made sure that I got rid of every single piece of rust that was on there but I started seeing that once I was cleaning it up, that it wasn’t just an ugly old stock there was actually a lot of wood grain in it, you can see all the patterns that were still in there that’s true of both my Trapdoor and, honestly, my Garand that I got from the CMP, it was pretty nasty but when we got to cleaning up the stock on it it really came out and looks really nice now this is a usable machine, and it’s a part of history that can be used you can learn so much more about these, I know so much more about these going out and actually shooting, them if
they’re in the condition to be shot so that’s what I did, once I had a local gunsmith check it out and make sure that everything was good on it I went ahead and I fired this, a bunch of times, because it’s fun so you don’t need to be afraid of cleaning antiques or cleaning other older rifles so now that I’ve got all of that out of the way, let me go ahead and tell you a few things about cleaning these type of rifles as far as all the metal parts on the rifle, whatever types of cleaners that you have around for your other firearms, it’s probably going to work fine on these cleaners like CLP, Ballistol, or even Hoppe’s, if that’s what you got, do perfectly fine on it there you just want to go over it with a rag and may be a toothbrush in some places if it’s on the exterior try not to take, like ,scotch brite or anything and really
just go over really harsh because you will start to take some of the finish and some of the patina that’s built up over the years those cleaners aren’t generally going to take a lot of that off unless you just really go over it really harshly now anywhere that there’s rust on it, you’ve got to get that off of there and if that ends up taking some of the finish or some of the patina off, well, then it does but the guns just going to get destroyed if you leave rust on it as far as the internal parts you, can clean those a little bit more thoroughly and harshly that’s where you can start getting the scotch brite and some of the the metal brushes and things it’s okay to do those a little bit more in there because that doesn’t show as much and you want to make sure that those parts are clean so that they’re working properly you also really want to make sure you get the bores clean on these you can get a lot of performance out of them just by getting the bores clean because a lot of people don’t ever
clean these out properly as far as the stocks outside, boiled linseed oil does a really good job there now a lot of people, as soon as they hear me say boiled, they’re like Oh, never use that boiled linseed oil. Only use the raw! that is what they used to back in the day, and that’s what’s right one thing that’s a big difference between boiled and raw linseed oil a lot of the fats are removed from it when it’s boiled and that’s what gives the wood the nice red color that we used to seeing in it now if it’s a stock that’s already been treated and already has a nice color on it then you don’t really have to continue using raw linseed oil on it to get that color, it’s kind of already there you can pretty much just show up at Walmart or your local hardware store and find boiled linseed oil now if you’re trying to do something like treat one of the new CMP stocks then, yeah, you may want to try to track down some raw linseed oil and that’s a little bit harder to come by you usually got to get that through some sort of art supply place now it’s also recommended by a lot of people, that you can mix the linseed oil with mineral spirits that will help it clean up a little bit better, and also help thin it down a little bit, to be able to get in there a little bit better I’ve generally just stuck with the straight linseed oil, but I think either of those
would work for you you also want to make sure that whatever rags you’re using the clean with linseed oil that you don’t just wad those up and throw them somewhere, actually sit them out there the air out because I’m told that they can actually be flammable and under right circumstances they might can even spontaneously combust it also might take several goes at it with a linseed oil to get the stocks to start really looking nice they’re not just gonna do it on the
first day Now, this is a mantra that has to do with about how often to put linseed oil on a new stock that you’re working with but it’s also a good idea for older rifles like this basically, once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year, once a year for life if you do that you’ll keep
your stock in great shape and then also just make sure that you get everything inside cleaned and lubed like it’s supposed to be and go ahead and probably get some oil over everything outsid but, basically these are machines, and as long as you treat them like machines nd clean them up and maintain them properly, they can last for a long time they can be really old, to still be able to be
used and enjoyed so, I hope you found this video useful, if you did be sure to like or comment you can also subscribe to my channel to make sure that you catch all the videos that I post and not miss anything I’m Jeremy with PoindexterG, and we’ll see you next time You like this beautiful old truck? Yeah, you like it I mean, it’s a beautiful lo truck, why
wouldn’t you like it? You just want to go in the house don’t you?

2 Replies to “Should You Clean Antique and Milsurp Firearms?”

  1. Question about the wood. Does the linseed oil clean or just protect? Can you use Murphy's oil to clean the wood?

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